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for a big moment that voters will remember. >> joe the plumber. >> reporter: like john mccain's invitation of an ohio plumber who questioned mr. obama's tax plan four years ago. >> in the third debate, john mccain repeatedly alluded to joe the plumber, and the allegation that barack obama #-r would share the wealth. >> reid: jamieson says that gave mccain a boost in the polls, but as mccain later learned, even a memorable debate moment carries a candidate only so far. the live tv audience for the first obama-romney debate is expected to be about 60 million people. that's roughly half the number expected to vote in the election. the combination of shrinking finances and rising crime is forcing drastic change on camden, new jersey, a small city just across the delaware from philadelphia. tony guida has the details of a reorganization plan that would take veteran cops off the beat permanently. >> reporter: if camden had its own postcards, the picture would look look a lot like this-- police responding to the scene of a crime. with just 77,000 residents and 1500 violent crimes and 48 murders t
. now the candidates are studying they are preparing and trying to lower expectations. >> senator mccain and president bush had a very different judgment. >> reporter: mitt romney and president obama are no strangers to debates. combined participated in dozens of debates over the past two election cycles. a lot is at stake this wednesday in denver. >> i would put medicare and social security in a lock box. >> reporter: in 2000, algore held an 8 point lead over george bush before the first debate. right after his lead vanished, the two were tied at 43. this year, each side is making efforts to lower expectations. this memo obtained, is written by romney advisor, beth meyers, she talks glowingly about the president's debate record, siting where americans declared him the winner over john mccain each time. you make your opponent out to be unbeatable, regardless of what is said, you can declare a victory of sorts. >> how are the candidates getting ready for the weekend? >> reporter: there is going to be a lot of studying going this weekend, mitt romney is going back to boston, actually you
election commission, he served as general counsel to john mccain during the senator's presidential campaigns in 2000 and again in 2008. t trevor potter is with the law firm of caplin and drysdale in washington, and he's the founding president of the campaign legal center, that's a non-partisan group committed to "representing the public interest in enforcement of campaign and media law." all very impressive, but let's face it, these days trevor potter's greatest claim to fame is as the man who keeps stephen colbert out of jail. he advised colbert on how to create his own super pac and then to set up his more clandestine 501 (c) (4). take a look. >> so how do i gets me one, trevor? >> well, lawyers often form delaware corporations, which we call shell corporations, that just sit there until they're needed. >> like, so some anonymous shell corporation? >> right. and, and i happen to have one here in my briefcase. >> let's see it. >> so -- >> okay, what's it called? >> it's called, "anonymous shell corporation." >> "anonymous shell corporation" filed in delaware? okay, i got this. so
republican senator john mccain, and then the risk of being the frontrunner with obama's senior advisor david axelrod. plus, polls, ads, and early voting. with republican strategist alex castellanos, and cinderella and congressional correspondent dana bash. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> it would not be debate season if the political world and the campaigns didn't play the expectations game. >> the president is obviously a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he will do just fine. >> the president's campaign manager jim mecina called romney a very skilled debater and in an open memo to interested parties, senior advisor david axelroad just as he was in the primaries, we expect mitt romney to be a prepared, disciplined, and aggressive debater. joining me now is someone who knows a thing or two about expectations and debates, republican senator john mccain. a little trip down memory lane there. >> i think both candidates are well prepared, and understandably, you'll see their sur gats lowering expectations. i don't know how our guy will compete, and that's part of the whole rout
points. these are not implausible assumptions. mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points. could have to up to 36 points. that is if it does not change. d, ands does get realize if the white college graduates face about the same, it means that met romney would have to get north of 40 point margin of the white voter. let's take a look of where we are now. this is the gold standard. breaks. this shows that obama is leading by 8 points. if you look at the averages, it is a bit high. the averages are running about four points. you are probably up by five points. this is within the averages. it is similar to the pole from the heartland monitor which will talk about later. overall top line, a look at the margin, 91 points. that is basically identical. 7222 among 852 margin. most have been showing this. what this means is that the idea that obama could get 80% of the minority vote is quite logical based on these and other data that looks like what he will get. this shows you the break out for college graduates. , obama is doing a little bit better among white graduat
later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior adviser for kerry and gore campaigns. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> tad, let me start with you. it's been over a week since the tape came out. the president, joe biden, now bill clinton are all still hammering. how damaging is this 47% comment? >> reverend, i think it was terribly damaging. what happened with that tape was after months and months of the obama campaign in battleground state after state, running ads and telling people that mitt romney doesn't care about them, mitt romney came forward himself and confirmed those attacks. there's nothing more devastating and nothing more powerful in the minds of voters than to hear the words out of a candidate's mouth. i think this is a big moment in presidential politics that's a turning-point moment. i think people will remember it all the way to election day. i think after the election they're going to look back and say this is a point when romney hurt himself and hurt him
. >> cenk: indeed, but nonetheless that has never stopped warmonger john mccain. and he gave us this dribble. >> we're leaving and they're making the appropriate adjustments. he's consistently overridden the advice of recommendations of our military leaders, and the chickens are coming home to roost there. >> cenk: wait a minute chickens coming home to roost? are youare you malcolm x? reverend wright? you're saying that we deserved to be attack? he doesn't listen to his commanders, go to general john alan, the top commander in afghanistan and he's incredible about the attacks. watch. >> should americans brace themselves for more attacks? is this going to continue? >> it will. the enemy recognizes this is a vulnerableage. iraq, the signature weapon we hadn't seen before was the i.e.d. we had to adjust to that. here i think the signature attack that we're beginning to see is going to be the insider attack. >> cenk: you see that, senator mccain, they recognize it as vulnerability, and the commanders on the ground are saying we need to adjust. it's gotten really really bad and it's to the point
lieberman and i will send to the united states congress is the mccain-feingold campaign finance reform bill. thathe reason it's important is that all of the other issues, whether prescription drugs for all seniors that are opposed by the drug companies or the patient's bill of rights to take the decisions away from the hmos and give them to the doctors and nurses, opposed by the hmos and insurance companies, all these other proposals are going to be a lot easier to get passed for the american people if we limit the influence of special interest money and give democracy back to the american people. and i wish governor bush would join me this evening in endorsing the mccain-feingold campaign finance reform bill. >> you know, this man has no credibility on the issue. as a matter of fact, i read in the "new york times" where he said he co-sponsored the mccain-feingold campaign fundraising bill. but he wasn't in the senate with senator feingold. and so, look, i'm going to -- what you need to know about me is i will uphold the law, i'm going to have an attorney general that enforces the law. the
on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house
of the candidates have experienced. president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist chris, national radio host michael, and also an msnbc contributor, and villa skype as you can tell from our shot there, steve, conservative radio show host. you have the visual disadvantage because you're skype. i'll let you start off first here. let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, st
. and these are the exact same tactics his firm was accused of in 2004 and 2006. >> jennifer: okay. mccain still hired anymore 2008. >> actually the same thing keeps playing out. in 2008 sproul changed his name to lincoln strategy group, and mccain hired him using a california affiliate. >> jennifer: here is what kills me about this lee, is the rnc cuts their ties with him. they sown totally shocked that this would happen. calling it a few bad apples and yet they have this history with him. >> it reveals the conceit by the republican party who have been hammering voter fraud. these tactics that have been accused against acorn. but here they have a firm they have been paying millions of dollars. they know it is a problem, because they asked him to change his name. >> jennifer: do you worry because this fraud occurred inside the republican party, that they will use it to justify their voter integrity scheme across the coup try. they'll cut their ties they hey, but because it's so rampant we'll continue to press on with these voter id laws. >> i think they probably will try some type o
like john mccain said bonn from a plumber that question president obama >>> john mccain alluded to joe the plumber and that barack obama would share the wealth >>> that give matt cain a boost in the polls but as matt cain learned even a memorable debate moment carries a candid only so far. the live audience for the first debate expected to be about 60 million people, half the number expected to vote in the election. chip reid cbs news >>> a look of the debate scheduled the first to bed wednesday in denver, on october 11th vice-president biden and paul ryan will lock horns in danville, kentucky, then two more presidential debates and hampstead new york and boca raton florida. a new poll shows proposition 38 that would earmark funds for schools appears to be headed for defeat an l.a. times poll shows 34 percent of voters favored the tax 52% oppose it it will affect most californians the measures wealthy backer has spent $30 million on the campaign. a competing measure supported by gov. brown will raise taxes only on the wealthy doing better, proposition 30 supported by 35 percent of vote
two weeks of continuous clanking stories on this, arizona senator john mccain says it is disgraceful that the white house blamedded attack initially on quote, spontaneous protests. here he is. >> the thing that is disturbing about this naivete, the fundamental ignorance of warfare. look, this was an attack on its face. heavy weapons, mortars, a, well-synchronized direct fire and indirect fire attack. the thing that is really scary about it is, that the people in the region believe the united states is weak and withdrawing. martha: john bolton joins me now, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. fox news contributor. is he right? >> absolutely. look, i think there are only two explanations for the administration's performance. one they're engaged in a cover-up because it is politically inconvenient to find terrorism not defeated as the president has said. the other is that the president's radical ideology has created a world view where he does not process facts that are inconsistent with that ideology. everything's fine in libya. al qaeda's not a threat. there is no global war on terroris
, which was this date four years ago, the focus was the war. in fact, both wars. >> do you, senator mccain, much has been said about the lessons of vietnam. what do you see as the lessons of iraq? >> i think the lessons of iraq are very clear that you cannot have a failed strategy. thanks to this great general david pa tray yous, they are succeeding and winning in iraq. >>the lde into the war in the first place. six years ago i stood up and opposed this war. we hadn't finished the job in afghanistan. we hadn't caught bin laden. we hadn't put al qaeda to rest. an asecetht that it was going to be a distraction. now, senator mccain and president bush had a very different judgment. >> so that was this date, 40 days out from the election in '08 and 40 days out from the election in '04. in '04 the campaign was consumed with the debate overt ast one of our wars. 40 days out from the election in '08, in the midst of the financial meltdown the campaign was consumed with both of the wars. now it's 2012 and we're 40 days out from the election this year and we are not quite as consumed with that issue
for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans into a debate, he can be pretty effective. >> bill: all right. weakness? >> weaknesses, when he gets -- like most every politician, when he gets defensive, that's when he makes mistakes. the $10,000 bet came when governor romney was being defensive about his health care policy and there have been other instances where other debaters have been able to get him on the defense and when that happens, he tends to look bad. >> bill: all right. you know that president obama is going to try to do that. he's going to question his health care criticism, his flip flops on various issues. he's going to press him from very specifi
that are saying farewell. see what he says about george w. bush and john mccain. this is "the daily rundown." i am chuck todd. let's get to the first reads of the morning. in the last two weeks, we polled in nine battleground states deciding the election. ohio, florida, virginia, colorado, iowa, wisconsin, north carolina, nevada, new hampshire. bad news for mitt romney, he doesn't lead in a single one. at best within the poll's margin of error. at worst, trails by eight points. this morning, how the nine states stack up. we said it again and again. the president's job approval rating may be the best indicator of where the bout may be. where it is more than 50, the president favored to win. iowa, florida, new hampshire, ohio, virginia, his approval rating below that, 47 or 48 in four. colorado, nevada, north carolina, wisconsin. here is a second way to breakdown the numbers. romney struggled with favorability number all year. that number underwater, more voters have unfavorable than favorable view in six states. romney is in positive territory in just three. florida, north carolina, virginia. final
in this race, mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points among the white working class in this election. that's youth turnout doesn't change among minority's despite the shifts in eligible voters. if this does get realize, let's say minority vote share goes up by couple of points, 26% as was in 2008 to 28% in 2012, and again if the white college graduate and minority support stays about the same, it means mitt romney would have to get north of 40-point margin among white working-class voters to actually win the election, to win the popular vote. so let's take look at where we are now based on a reasonable came out. it's the gold standard for polls. a pew research center. no one else -- no offense to anyone else in the room who has april. they really do it right. it's pretty reliable stuff. they give you a lot of interesting demographic breaks tradition as among likely voters that obama is leading now by eight points. if you look at the average of the national polls as a bit high relative to the average. the average has been running about four-point. if you look at
, in fact, at best a few points better than wind mccain ran in 2008 and he is doing no better at all among white college graduates. that is one reason why the state is at this point looking pretty favorable toward barack obama. he could carry it by as much as he did in 2008. and also, if you look at it geographically obama is doing very well in the columbus area, which is kind of the slim support where it counts. o.c. investors and a lot of other states. the grace to the pennsylvania which, again, if their romney team could have put pennsylvania in place it would have been the key to a lot of other things. but the problem for them now is that pennsylvania is looking very difficult for them. obama is barely running in eight or nine or ten. average margin. it's just not happening. again, it comes back to what appeared to be the big coke, that they could drive up the white working-class margins in that state. 2008, a 15-point of vantage for john mccain, but the polls coming out of pennsylvania again and again show is not doing any better than-15. so basically the state is looking very similar
and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said that it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know that it was a planned terrorist attack. if this was one tragic incident, that would be a tragedy in and of itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling literally before our eyes on our tv screens. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey, that al qaeda is on the wane, that everything's fine in the middle east. >> you think it's political? >> i think there are certain political overtones. how else could you trot out our u.n. ambassador to say it was spontaneous? >> maybe it was. >> five days later? that doesn't pass the smell test. it was ever ignorance or willful intelligence. >> whether you agree with him or not, senator mccain has the credibility, a war hero, with great experience in washington dealing with foreign policy, how do you think, though,
the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exist, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> dana bash joins us live from washington. first of all, i guess people will take a look at friday's numbers, the jobs numbers and do we think that could be a, the october surprise that people are waiting for, the unemployment? >> reporter: you know, it could be if it's anything like the unemployment reports that we've seen important the past several months it's going to be pretty static and that would not be a surprise. but, you know, what was interesting about what the presidential historian said that we talked to said it's true about these october surprises. they only have an impact if, because it's so late in the
as a blocking tackle in the race against john mccain. they are doing the same this year. anyone who says that is not true is, i think, either deluding themself or not being honest about the coverage being provided not only by news channels and pundits but by the reporters who are covering the president themselves. >>neil: that is a good point. some things are being left off the table. thank you very much. the theme four years ago today, john knows this, president obama huddling with both presidential candidates, john mccain, and obama. remember that, four years ago? imagine a bank bailout on the way. everyone pinned that bailout on president public. what if i told you the mastermind was a certain federal reserve bank president who became a treasury secretary. you know tim. meet the former need player who fingers tim. the low down on the meltdown after after this. now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this?
know. this shifts from one campaign season to the next. president obama wiped out senator john mccain in early voting in 2008. many political analysts think that gap is going to be much tighter this time around. >> republicans are enthused, more so than in 2008. there will be motivation among the republicans to vote. we have a romney campaign that is investing in early voting were more so than the john mccain campaign in 2008. >>reporter: they say it is about the enthusiasm gap which the republicans have an edge. >>shepard: is the romney camp doing things different in the way the james holmes campaign did? >>guest: yes, the john mccain had less money. romney campaign has a more targeted approach spending as were time as possible in states where early voting has or is about to start. >> for republicans specifically, that message needs to be crystal clear. that is why governor romney is so specific as he is campaigning. you realize that votes are being cast. >>reporter: before the first debate is held. these are voters that already have made up their mind. >>shepard: there are a lot of
in the field, that romney has a good ground game in ohio. knocking on 28 times as many doors as john mccain did. that's a pretty stunning ratio. why isn't he doing better? >> the mccain campaign wasn't renowned for its ground game. romney has about half as many offices in ohio as the obama campaign, which has been embedded in the state, yet according to "the washington post poll, the romney campaign is doing a good job keeping up. these volunteers and field staffers for the campaign don't really know what product they're selling because mitt romney hasn't really articulated. a compelling message as to why they should throw out barack obama because the economy in ohio is doing better than it is in other parts of the country. >> it is and the question is, who gets the credit ryan joins me now along with roland martin. roland, that was the kind of, you're not afraid to say what you think. a kick in the you know, at least they're saying they feel the way they feel. >> actually, honesty is always the best policy. it's amazing they are making sarah palin out to look like a you know, profit, if you wi
john mccain being a man of some serious patriotic spirit when he stood up and refused to go along with the woman who said barack obama is an arab. to me, those are the moments that makes me love politics. it's like a george stevens movie where someone blows you away. the guy on the other side tends to be the hero of the moment. >> there's a lot of nobility in john mccain the man and i read his books and did a lot of research. i think he's an interesting and conflicting characters. all the characters john mccain, steve smith, sarah palin are almost shakespearean in their adventure. i wanted all the characters to have as much dimension as possible. >> one of the problems with the tea party people, they do care about their country, but the simplicity of their appeal is to thin. like sarah palin. what made her think, in your line of writing, that she should be the second most important person in the country? why would she have such limited background think she could be president? >> she was a popular governor. 80% popularity. she had taken on corruption. she had gotten money back to
senator john mccain. also an update on american airlines contract talks with its pilots. we'll hear from a company spokesperson. and actress lucy liu talks about tonight's premier. all that and so much more. busy day on cbs "this morning." that will do it. i appreciate you watching. i'm terrell brown. take care, everybody. have a great day. ,,,, >>> >>> we begin with some developing news outside. when glass sending else. >>>
the overall race. i do not think sarah palin helped john mccain, but i do not think anyone he picked held that election. people are going to vote for the person who is going to be president of the united states. can the vice president held? yes, but i think we overblow it, thinking it is going to alter the broad base. -- broad base. tavis: what is your sense of whether there is an international issue that might change this race? >> i always say if something they have been in existence, and you live with that uncertainty. that being said, i do not think that winds up being a new issue for most voters. i would say if you look at previous elections, a foreign- policy rises to the back burner issue. only times of relative domestic tranquillity as the economy seem to be doing well. other times foreign policy does not make it to the back burner. doesn't matter a little biscuits? sure, but i think this election is about the economy first, the economy second, the economy third, and anything else to be honest. tavis: good to have you on the show. thanks for your work. >> it is always a pleasure. t
stated plainly what was obvious to many, including senator john mccain, who joins us shortly, almost from the beginning. >> as we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place, that it became clear that there were terrorists who had planned that attack. >> the best we can tell, this is the first time any administration official has uttered the word "planned" to describe what happened. asked how long it took to reach his conclusion, secretary panetta said quote, it took awhile once information from benghazi came back. but keeping them honest, multiple sources now tell "360" that officials knew this was a terror attack almost from the get-go within 24 hours. at least intelligence officials. yet this is what they were saying for more than a week publicly after the killing. >> it's important to know that there's an fbi investigation that has begun, and will take some time to be completed. that will tell us with certainty what transpired, but our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that in fact, what this b
during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a very big difference when obama is 45, 46 as months ago when everything was 44, now he gets to 48, 49, 50, you can say it makes a difference -- >> it does feel like 48 is a big difference -- >> seeing a change in the right direction in the approval rating. >> massive gender
blame this man, john sydney mccain iii. >> he looks happy there. >> this is the message i had. he wrote about this in the daily news today. mitt is running in the wrong year against the wrong barack obama. just imagine if he had run in 2008 and won the nomination instead of john mccain. next to the junior senator from illinois, he actually would have looked very grown up, right? he had run businesses and the olympics and been a governor back when being a governor was still a big deal for running for president. he could run on romney care instead of against it. his response to the economic meltdown, would have been i got this. i can handle it this, as opposed to mccain's which was to freak out and suspend his campaign. of course, the us versus them 99% kind of class war rhetoric of "occupy wall street" hadn't begun yet. it was still acceptable to be a rich guy and not have to wear the scarlet "a" on your chest. being an expletive we know and not adultery. it would have been the perfect time and the perfect obama for mitt romney to run against. i can't think of a worse moment for a multi-
thank you for the call. i remind you mitt romney gave john mccain 22 years of tax records which tells me he's much more enthusiastic about being vice president. it's the bill press show. we'll be right back. dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv. >> this is the bill press show. i'm john fugelsang. we are back on the air. i'm putting my breakfast to the side. normally, i try to sneak food in the commercial breaks. i learned from stephanie miller that it's actually very professional to eat on camera. >> i was going to wait for you to take a bite and ask your question. >> if you'd like to watch someone eating during a radio show on t.v., stay tuned. the stephanie miller show follows and you can watch them go crazy. that's really the food network. we're taking your calls at 866-55-press. our last caller, paul from seattle made good points about governor romney's tax returns. my two theories about why he doesn't want his tax returns released on the surface he doesn't want folks to know he's this wealthy and makes all this
thing about president obama and the debates with john mccain, it really wasn't so much what he said. it was the way he held himself compared with the way that senator john mccain held himself, and senator mccain looked increasingly flustered. he looked frustrated with candidate obama. i think that the great thing about president obama is that he does have the capacity to be totally in the moment and to be totally funny. he is funny on his feet. and so, you know, for him to practice what he's going to do in case of a zinger, i think he's got the blessing of being rather spontaneous and the blessing of being up against someone who is incapable of spontaneity, reveals himself into" those spontaneous moments like the 47% taped remark to be not a terribly likable person. so i think for the president to practice the way he handles zingers defeats what the president is particularly good at. >> well, actually barack means -- barack means in swahili blessed one, so you got that one right. will president obama challenge romney on the details of his vague tax plan, a tax plan almost every expe
policies, mr. president. >> sean: remember john mccain did not look obama in the eye. i mean, if there's certain characteristics that you want to lay out for somebody heading into a debate, he's got to be presidential. probably can't call him a liar, but could point out broken promises, failed policies. >> "there you go again" works pretty well. >> sean: or some version thereof. i think people would like to see somebody -- i've never seen this president take a verbal punch. >> i also think people want to know that mitt romney can win the argument. i mean, i think part of the reason you see in the campaign in the doldrums a little bit for two weeks is that people want somebody who's going to stand and fight. margaret thatcher, prime minister thatcher, used to say, first you win the argument, then you win the vote. that's i think the challenge that romney faces. >> sean: mr. speaker, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> sean: glad you're here. when we come back, a devastating new ad is coming up. we'll have that for you. it deals with the banghazi attacks. also the latest on the d
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